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QUOTE(mclaren F1 @ Feb 17 2005, 03:16 )
get a radeon 9600 pro 128mb which is a very good card

but i dunno if its too expensive for you
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correction, was a good card. the radean 9000 series was very good for its time, but its now becoming outdated, and not able to deliver in todays games. if you have money go with the 6000 or x800 series(6000 being better imo)

but if you get that atleast get the 256mb xt.


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The game demands a 16MB Video Card to be playable, otherwise lots of crazy shit.gif will happen. my price range is Free to $199.00U.S Dollars

IDK WTF VPU is but it is very demanding.

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vpu=video processing unit

if thats the only game you play, go with the 9600 pro. if you have any intentions on playing half life 2, doom 3, far cry, or any other game at high quality with high fps, i would go for the 6600gt(about 210$) the 9600 pro will play those games, but dont expect quality from it.


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i think getting radeon 9700 pro or radeon 9800 pro would be good if you are not rich.
if you have lots of money, get a geforce 6800 ultra extreme, geforce 6800 gt or geforce 6600 gt.
although sli graphic cards are better than those, they dosen't play on some games.


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Is the normal edition of the GeForce 5200 FX AGP?
 
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QUOTE(Pvt. Blackhawk @ Feb 17 2005, 14:27 )
correction, was a good card. the radean 9000 series was very good for its time, but its now becoming outdated, and not able to deliver in todays games. if you have money go with the 6000 or x800 series(6000 being better imo)

but if you get that atleast get the 256mb xt.
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the radeon 9600xt was origianlly offered with half-life 2 free. if ati weren't confident a 9600xt could run hl2 smoothly with good graphics they wouldn't have done that. the 9xxx series are getting old but that doesn't make them obsolete. they sre still fully competent to run the games of today smoothly and cleanly. the only difference is that they're not as future-proof.


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yeah, guess you are right. i kinda got caught up so much in x800 and 6800 series stuff, that i forgot really how good the 9000 series was, and still is. but it does come down to, as you said, the 9000 being beat by the future technology.

i dont know if you can find any bennhmarks with the 9000 series in them, only ones i have seen a 9800xt vs 6600gt.


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QUOTE(Mister V @ Feb 12 2005, 11:38 )
yeah, Derct is right, but otherwise, for the best graphics card, buy a Geforce 6800Ultra, the x800 costs twice as much. but if you will buy the x800 you wont need another graphics card for like several years.
im a GeForce man.
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Me too. First GeForce2 MX 400, than Geforce3 Ti /for a week/, than GeForce5200 /now/ yes.gif
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Well, now I'm very confused, name the best card for HL2, DoD, CS, and CS:S... THE BEST, ranging around $300 USD.


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well ati cards play better in hl2 at high res at aa and af enabled. i dont think they have any 300$ agp cards though(beside from maybe the aging 9000 series)

the 9000 series will work great, but you are probalbly better off getting a 6600gt or 6800

if you have a pci ex bord though and are only gonna play source for a long time, then go with the x700 or something.

http://hardocp.com/reviews.html?cat=Mw==

those people have good reviews, and i like how they show the benchmarks(line graphs of all changes instead of a bar of the average fps.

if it were up to me, id buy the bfg 6800 oc for 300$, but it has a 40$ rebate offer and includes far cry.

http://bfgtech.com/6800OC.html

there is also a chance you will unlock its 4 extra pipes and 1 extra vertex thingy which will boost proformance. i dont know if that voids warrenty or not though.

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Buy the GeForce 256, its 1337 yes.gif


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QUOTE(Mister V @ Feb 22 2005, 17:14 )
Buy the GeForce 256, its 1337 yes.gif
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i think you mean buy a geforce card with 256mb of video memory, as that isnt a card.

having 256mb of video memory is good, but dont say buy a 5700 over a 6800 because it has 256mb of video memory. the 6800 will beat the 5700 anyday.

just dont base your decision on one factor that makes up the card.

its like cake. would you rather have 5 very bad tasting cakes, or 1 very good one?

^bad analogy.

edit: i think you mean the 6800gt, which has 256mb of video memory. thats a very nice card, but its 400$ and noesnt fit his price range.

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No, i was j/k, you know the old 256 biggrin.gif I think it was called that way, at least, between me and my friends tongue.gif

The memory doesn't count so much, I know, the main "chip" does.

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I think I may be getting the BFGTech 6600 GT OC AGP once I get the money.


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QUOTE(N_?ɪR @ Feb 23 2005, 12:25 )
I think I may be getting the BFGTech 6600 GT OC AGP once I get the money.
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if you can, get the bfg 6600gt oc, it wil give you alittle better proformance. not to mention the lifetime warrenty and great tech support.

xfx, msi, gigabyte, and evga are all good retailers.

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ummm, my video card is in my motherboard which is the Intel 845GLLY along with everything but the Ethernet card, can anyone tell me if its good 2 play games?


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QUOTE(Pvt. Blackhawk @ Feb 23 2005, 16:50 )
if you can, get the bfg 6600gt oc, it wil give you alittle better proformance. not to mention the lifetime warrenty and great tech support.

xfx, msi, gigabyte, and evga are all good retailers.
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Yeah, but all I have to do is put the AGP right into the... AGP port... I don't want it to be to complicated....


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QUOTE(ScaredTactics85 @ Feb 23 2005, 17:13 )
ummm, my video card is in my motherboard which is the Intel 845GLLY along with everything but the Ethernet card, can anyone tell me if its good 2 play games?
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try playing a game, then post the error message prventing you from evening starting the exe. tongue.gif

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thats what the manual is for, but installing a card isnt that hard.

1. clean out old drivers
2. take card out, put card in.
3. if you are upgrading from onboard, disable it in the bios and enable 8x agp
4. start windows(the resoulution will be f*****, dont worry)
5. install driver cd
6. reboot
7. download current frivers from site, unistall old ones, restart, install new ones(you can do this instead of #5, i would download the latest drivers first so they are on your hdd ready to install)

i havent swapped a card or updated drivers in some time, so correct me if iam wrong. that is the basic way of upgrading your video card though(i think).

more info in this thread: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=752253 (mainly just covers driver swapping, but iam pretty sure thats what you do. change the card ofcourse biggrin.gif )

the folks at hard|ocp will be willing to help you guys with your more technical questions.


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here are a few reviews of cards.

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzA4 <ati x700(compares with 6600 and 6600gt in benchmarking)

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzAwLDU= <ati x800xl(compares with bfg 6800 oc and other more expensive cards)

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=Njg5 <6600gt(compares with 9800 pro, this is why the 6600gt is a better deal, just read the benchmarks)

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzE2 <bfg 6600gt oc(compares against itself and bfg 6800gt models, this is more of a comparason of agp:pci-e;pci-e in sli, still a nice read)

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjUy <bfg6800 oc(compares with a 6800gt and x800pro)

now keep in mind the ati x700, some x800, and x850 only come in pci-express versions. and a x800pro agp is much more money and you can see its beat buy the 6800 oc(100$ less) in doom 3. nividias 6800 line also support dx 9.0c and psm 3.0, which will let you use these effects in future games.

just keep those reviews in mind when buying.

also next generation cards should be coming out withing the next few months(says me smile.gif , its an estimate but its about time for next gen cards!) so if you are in the market and can wait, you might want to if you want to end up paying alittle less. in that time you could also save up for a better card then you origionally planned to buy, or some more ram or a new cpu. but cpu's and ram are another story, just keep it in mind.

man iam so bored, i think iam gonna go to bed(...soon happy.gif )


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